Comments for Church Marketing Sucks http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com Frustrate. Educate. Motivate. Mon, 06 Feb 2012 22:32:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 Comment on Churches Reaching Out With Pinterest by Michael Buckingham http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/2012/02/churches-reaching-out-with-pinterest/comment-page-1/#comment-30188 Michael Buckingham Mon, 06 Feb 2012 22:32:30 +0000 http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/?p=5478#comment-30188 And arrogant, something we're too often guilty of. And arrogant, something we’re too often guilty of.

]]> Comment on Churches Reaching Out With Pinterest by Bobby Chandler http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/2012/02/churches-reaching-out-with-pinterest/comment-page-1/#comment-30187 Bobby Chandler Mon, 06 Feb 2012 22:21:02 +0000 http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/?p=5478#comment-30187 One more thing...Directly from Pinterest: "Avoid Self Promotion Pinterest is designed to curate and share things you love. If there is a photo or project you’re proud of, pin away! However, try not to use Pinterest purely as a tool for self-promotion." One more thing…Directly from Pinterest:

“Avoid Self Promotion

Pinterest is designed to curate and share things you love. If there is a photo or project you’re proud of, pin away! However, try not to use Pinterest purely as a tool for self-promotion.”

]]> Comment on Churches Reaching Out With Pinterest by Bobby Chandler http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/2012/02/churches-reaching-out-with-pinterest/comment-page-1/#comment-30186 Bobby Chandler Mon, 06 Feb 2012 22:02:45 +0000 http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/?p=5478#comment-30186 I agree with Michael. I wholeheartedly support the church tapping into tech and social media to reach the online community. But, I am a little wary of the potential of using a tool beyond its intent. If abused, it could come across as a little spammy (Twitter anyone?). Not just for churches, but for any business trying to make a presence on Pinterest. I will be very interested to see how it works for Mars Hill. And by the way, I'll be following their boards on Pinterest. :) I agree with Michael. I wholeheartedly support the church tapping into tech and social media to reach the online community. But, I am a little wary of the potential of using a tool beyond its intent. If abused, it could come across as a little spammy (Twitter anyone?). Not just for churches, but for any business trying to make a presence on Pinterest.

I will be very interested to see how it works for Mars Hill. And by the way, I’ll be following their boards on Pinterest. :)

]]> Comment on Churches Reaching Out With Pinterest by Michael Buckingham http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/2012/02/churches-reaching-out-with-pinterest/comment-page-1/#comment-30184 Michael Buckingham Mon, 06 Feb 2012 21:52:22 +0000 http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/?p=5478#comment-30184 But is this a good use of Pinterest or is it the church molding it into what it wants it to be for its use. I don't know. I'm all for the church tapping into tech, but we also need to respect the intent of the tech. Some of it seems right on, but some of it seems too much of a stretch. Much like when a company tries to overly commercialize twitter, Facebook,etc. I don't know but I do like that they're trying for sure. But is this a good use of Pinterest or is it the church molding it into what it wants it to be for its use. I don’t know. I’m all for the church tapping into tech, but we also need to respect the intent of the tech. Some of it seems right on, but some of it seems too much of a stretch. Much like when a company tries to overly commercialize twitter, Facebook,etc.

I don’t know but I do like that they’re trying for sure.

]]> Comment on Churches Reaching Out With Pinterest by Jill http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/2012/02/churches-reaching-out-with-pinterest/comment-page-1/#comment-30181 Jill Mon, 06 Feb 2012 20:34:37 +0000 http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/?p=5478#comment-30181 I think this is awesome. I've been using Pinterest for a project that I am doing to raise awareness for Bible translation for an unreached people group in South Asia. I post a "doodled" Bible verse on year27.com and then pin the image that I draw each day on Pinterest. I have had lots of repins and I have not seen a lot of traffic on my site from the pins. I'm hoping that some will see and go to the web site out of curiosity or by wanting more scripture for encouragement. I have not thought about doing this for the churches I work with, but definitely going to think about how we could incorporate and if it would be effective. I think this is awesome. I’ve been using Pinterest for a project that I am doing to raise awareness for Bible translation for an unreached people group in South Asia. I post a “doodled” Bible verse on year27.com and then pin the image that I draw each day on Pinterest. I have had lots of repins and I have not seen a lot of traffic on my site from the pins. I’m hoping that some will see and go to the web site out of curiosity or by wanting more scripture for encouragement.

I have not thought about doing this for the churches I work with, but definitely going to think about how we could incorporate and if it would be effective.

]]> Comment on Churches Reaching Out With Pinterest by Angela http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/2012/02/churches-reaching-out-with-pinterest/comment-page-1/#comment-30172 Angela Mon, 06 Feb 2012 15:36:53 +0000 http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/?p=5478#comment-30172 I've been trying this too for a couple of weeks now ... great to have some more ideas :) I’ve been trying this too for a couple of weeks now … great to have some more ideas :)

]]> Comment on The Interactive Church by Brenda Hauser http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/2012/01/the-interactive-church/comment-page-1/#comment-30081 Brenda Hauser Sat, 04 Feb 2012 00:40:26 +0000 http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/?p=5413#comment-30081 We "live" Tweet and Facebook our Midweek Bible study. Lot's of likes and comments on Facebook, but no response on Twitter. Next week we will try asking the pastor to invite the audience to send a tweet with comments, insights or questions. We're hoping to create a "buzz." Best Facebook post responses come from "heart" posts. In both of the churches I have done marketing for, church family members respond best to insightful posts about how much God loves them. Blessings, Brenda We “live” Tweet and Facebook our Midweek Bible study. Lot’s of likes and comments on Facebook, but no response on Twitter. Next week we will try asking the pastor to invite the audience to send a tweet with comments, insights or questions. We’re hoping to create a “buzz.” Best Facebook post responses come from “heart” posts. In both of the churches I have done marketing for, church family members respond best to insightful posts about how much God loves them.

Blessings,
Brenda

]]> Comment on Comic Sans is NOT Okay by Rob Kelly http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/2004/08/comic-sans-is-not-okay/comment-page-1/#comment-30033 Rob Kelly Fri, 03 Feb 2012 05:45:47 +0000 http://cms.bigbadcollab.com/?p=40#comment-30033 Adobe Caslon Pro was my choice for the bulk of my church's print design. It also does well on screen. I've always been fond of Helvetica as well... it's a font that I see everywhere and it never gets old. Adobe Caslon Pro was my choice for the bulk of my church’s print design. It also does well on screen. I’ve always been fond of Helvetica as well… it’s a font that I see everywhere and it never gets old.

]]> Comment on Sexperiment Poll Results by Will Haddock http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/2012/01/sexperiment-poll-results/comment-page-1/#comment-29943 Will Haddock Tue, 31 Jan 2012 22:09:46 +0000 http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/?p=5408#comment-29943 Really, how many gimmicks did Jesus use to bring people into the kingdom. Stopping to die long enough to tell the thief at his side this day you shall be with me in paradise was no gimmick. Crying out Father forgive them for they know not what they do was no gimmick. Being tied to a hitching post and having flesh ripped from his body from a whip was no gimmick. Being slapped, spit upon, having hair ripped from his face was no gimmick. Praying till blood ran from his brow like sweat was no gimmick. Just because you have a large following does not mean anyone is following Jesus. Nor does a small following. I don't know what Jesus this type of "evangelism" and I use the word very loosely brings anyone to, but it's not the one in scripture. Has everyone forgot the 80's when television preachers begin to promote things other than the gospel. Sex is not the gospel and the Bible has very little to say about it comparatively. Our culture is obsessed with feel good anything and sadly Society and Positive Response has come to dictate more in our churches than scripture. We don't preach for positive feed back, response, applause or shock value. We should be preaching because we are passionate about building Christ's Kingdom not ours. Really, how many gimmicks did Jesus use to bring people into the kingdom. Stopping to die long enough to tell the thief at his side this day you shall be with me in paradise was no gimmick. Crying out Father forgive them for they know not what they do was no gimmick. Being tied to a hitching post and having flesh ripped from his body from a whip was no gimmick. Being slapped, spit upon, having hair ripped from his face was no gimmick. Praying till blood ran from his brow like sweat was no gimmick. Just because you have a large following does not mean anyone is following Jesus. Nor does a small following. I don’t know what Jesus this type of “evangelism” and I use the word very loosely brings anyone to, but it’s not the one in scripture. Has everyone forgot the 80′s when television preachers begin to promote things other than the gospel. Sex is not the gospel and the Bible has very little to say about it comparatively. Our culture is obsessed with feel good anything and sadly Society and Positive Response has come to dictate more in our churches than scripture. We don’t preach for positive feed back, response, applause or shock value. We should be preaching because we are passionate about building Christ’s Kingdom not ours.

]]> Comment on The Interactive Church by Zach Lorton http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/2012/01/the-interactive-church/comment-page-1/#comment-29933 Zach Lorton Tue, 31 Jan 2012 16:30:23 +0000 http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/?p=5413#comment-29933 This past Christmas, we began promoting a website, EnjoyChristmas.tv, on October 1st. The idea was to ask people to submit stories of memorable Christmas moments that they experienced, and those stories that were submitted were gone over and approved, then posted to the blog on that website. We didn't have an overwhelming number of entries, but the ones that people shared were great and heartfelt. We took 3 of the stories that were submitted and recorded a testimonial interview with the person that wrote it, and used those as connecting moments during our Christmas Eve services. Those stories really spoke into a lot of people's lives because they were honest and true. And we're going to do more interactive things in the future. There have been a few messages where our pastors encouraged people to submit questions regarding specific topics (sex, myths about Christianity, frequently asked questions about God, etc.), and those questions were then answered at some point during that sermon series. It helped make people feel like they were not only contributing to what was being taught, but also like they were becoming more unified as a church body. There's something to be said for getting people involved. Zach Lorton Media Production EnjoyChurch.tv This past Christmas, we began promoting a website, EnjoyChristmas.tv, on October 1st. The idea was to ask people to submit stories of memorable Christmas moments that they experienced, and those stories that were submitted were gone over and approved, then posted to the blog on that website. We didn’t have an overwhelming number of entries, but the ones that people shared were great and heartfelt. We took 3 of the stories that were submitted and recorded a testimonial interview with the person that wrote it, and used those as connecting moments during our Christmas Eve services. Those stories really spoke into a lot of people’s lives because they were honest and true. And we’re going to do more interactive things in the future.

There have been a few messages where our pastors encouraged people to submit questions regarding specific topics (sex, myths about Christianity, frequently asked questions about God, etc.), and those questions were then answered at some point during that sermon series. It helped make people feel like they were not only contributing to what was being taught, but also like they were becoming more unified as a church body. There’s something to be said for getting people involved.

Zach Lorton
Media Production
EnjoyChurch.tv

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