Comments on: $5 Million Bridge to Somewhere: Tie it to the Purpose http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/2009/10/5-million-bridge-to-somewhere-tie-it-to-the-purpose/ Frustrate. Educate. Motivate. Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:01:49 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: bonzomatic http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/2009/10/5-million-bridge-to-somewhere-tie-it-to-the-purpose/comment-page-1/#comment-27454 bonzomatic Tue, 22 Nov 2011 18:05:31 +0000 http://cms.bigbadcollab.com/?p=1649#comment-27454 I would like to point out that Northpoint also raised $1.7 million in less than ONE WEEK to give to local charities. That's pretty amazing when the original goal was to collect $500,ooo over several weeks. I would say that building that bridge has truly paid off because it has made coming to a big church a lot less intimidating. I would like to point out that Northpoint also raised $1.7 million in less than ONE WEEK to give to local charities. That’s pretty amazing when the original goal was to collect $500,ooo over several weeks. I would say that building that bridge has truly paid off because it has made coming to a big church a lot less intimidating.

]]> By: Really http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/2009/10/5-million-bridge-to-somewhere-tie-it-to-the-purpose/comment-page-1/#comment-26707 Really Thu, 03 Nov 2011 17:08:43 +0000 http://cms.bigbadcollab.com/?p=1649#comment-26707 Sometimes you might not fully agree with what you hear and see at NP, but overall my experience with NP has been fantastic and I am really grateful for what they do. Having said that, this project has been the only time were I totally disagreed with Andy & NP. Frankly, if what really is a 10-15 minutes 'traffic jam' to get out of NP, is not worth your time to listen to the message and live the experience, then the problem is different. We are spoiled enough, and 'wasting' 10 minutes in the car could be put to good use to debrief the message, discuss about what you learned, about how you will apply it, as a family, or as individual. We spend hours texting, playing with apps, ... etc. (won't even go deeper there) IMHO, $5M can be used in much more relevant ways. How many high quality school days that would pay? How many meals? How many churches? etc.. Sometimes you might not fully agree with what you hear and see at NP, but overall my experience with NP has been fantastic and I am really grateful for what they do.

Having said that, this project has been the only time were I totally disagreed with Andy & NP.

Frankly, if what really is a 10-15 minutes ‘traffic jam’ to get out of NP, is not worth your time to listen to the message and live the experience, then the problem is different.

We are spoiled enough, and ‘wasting’ 10 minutes in the car could be put to good use to debrief the message, discuss about what you learned, about how you will apply it, as a family, or as individual. We spend hours texting, playing with apps, … etc. (won’t even go deeper there)

IMHO, $5M can be used in much more relevant ways. How many high quality school days that would pay? How many meals? How many churches? etc..

]]> By: Grace Nabundince http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/2009/10/5-million-bridge-to-somewhere-tie-it-to-the-purpose/comment-page-1/#comment-15050 Grace Nabundince Tue, 05 Oct 2010 13:03:24 +0000 http://cms.bigbadcollab.com/?p=1649#comment-15050 Dear Cheapman: 1. Usually when you have to start a sentence off with "I hate to say this" you are about to say something you shouldn't. 2. You are too influenced by the media. This is not the worst economy since Jesus (or even in recent history) 3. Your brashness is astounding. Though the NP Staff, city officials and others have spent months analyzing it you can shoot from the hip and say it is a huge blunder? Mega-impressive. 4. "Cheapness" (frugality) is not a virtue if it means we are holding on to resources God gave us to use for His Kingdom. 5. Finally, WWJD? It is hard to say. He was always surprising the very disciples who walked with Him for 3 years. My guess is He would surprise you and provide more than enough for NP to complete this project just to show He is not deterred by man's economy. Let's watch and see. Dear Cheapman:
1. Usually when you have to start a sentence off with “I hate to say this” you are about to say something you shouldn’t.
2. You are too influenced by the media. This is not the worst economy since Jesus (or even in recent history)
3. Your brashness is astounding. Though the NP Staff, city officials and others have spent months analyzing it you can shoot from the hip and say it is a huge blunder? Mega-impressive.
4. “Cheapness” (frugality) is not a virtue if it means we are holding on to resources God gave us to use for His Kingdom.
5. Finally, WWJD? It is hard to say. He was always surprising the very disciples who walked with Him for 3 years. My guess is He would surprise you and provide more than enough for NP to complete this project just to show He is not deterred by man’s economy. Let’s watch and see.

]]> By: cheapman http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/2009/10/5-million-bridge-to-somewhere-tie-it-to-the-purpose/comment-page-1/#comment-13264 cheapman Fri, 27 Aug 2010 01:54:10 +0000 http://cms.bigbadcollab.com/?p=1649#comment-13264 I hate to tell you this is misguided and a huge blunder for a megachurch to make. A 5 million dollar bridge in the midst of the worst economy since Jesus was here. Come on now! WWJD How about a 5 million dallor cross to bear our sins!!! I hate to tell you this is misguided and a huge blunder for a megachurch to make. A 5 million dollar bridge in the midst of the worst economy since Jesus was here. Come on now! WWJD How about a 5 million dallor cross to bear our sins!!!

]]> By: Zach Lorton http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/2009/10/5-million-bridge-to-somewhere-tie-it-to-the-purpose/comment-page-1/#comment-9597 Zach Lorton Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:41:23 +0000 http://cms.bigbadcollab.com/?p=1649#comment-9597 Our church is launching a fundraising campaign for several areas of mission ministry that we already actively support, although many of our members don't even know we're involved, so we developed the <b>0 TO 60 IN 40 DAYS</b> campaign. Between November 15th and December 24th, we're looking to raise $60,000 to help these ministries thrive and continue ministering to those in need. You can check out more information at our website, which is at <a href="http://www.0to60in40.com" rel="nofollow">www.0to60in40.com</a>. You can also view a promotional video I created at <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVGg_KbjJlo" rel="nofollow">YouTube</a>. I hope it inspires you and gives you an idea for your ministry. Our church is launching a fundraising campaign for several areas of mission ministry that we already actively support, although many of our members don’t even know we’re involved, so we developed the 0 TO 60 IN 40 DAYS campaign. Between November 15th and December 24th, we’re looking to raise $60,000 to help these ministries thrive and continue ministering to those in need. You can check out more information at our website, which is at http://www.0to60in40.com. You can also view a promotional video I created at YouTube. I hope it inspires you and gives you an idea for your ministry.

]]> By: Ryan http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/2009/10/5-million-bridge-to-somewhere-tie-it-to-the-purpose/comment-page-1/#comment-9596 Ryan Fri, 30 Oct 2009 08:52:58 +0000 http://cms.bigbadcollab.com/?p=1649#comment-9596 I live in the Atlanta area, and will admit I have never visited NP. I have heard a lot about their church - opinions, experiences, etc - and I've found that sometimes I think what they're doing is spot-on with the gospel, and other times I've questioned their motives. But recently I've found that every time I hear or read something from Andy Stanley, I see his heart for the lost and his desire to impact as many people with the gospel as he can. He is not about numbers, he is about each individual person that his church comes into contact with - inside or outside the walls. Every time I've found myself questioning their motives is a result of listening to or reading someone else's critique or opinion. Too many people are too quick to insert their "expertise" on a situation of another church, or its leadership, when they have no knowledge of the situation outside the article they just read. I live in the Atlanta area, and will admit I have never visited NP. I have heard a lot about their church – opinions, experiences, etc – and I’ve found that sometimes I think what they’re doing is spot-on with the gospel, and other times I’ve questioned their motives.
But recently I’ve found that every time I hear or read something from Andy Stanley, I see his heart for the lost and his desire to impact as many people with the gospel as he can. He is not about numbers, he is about each individual person that his church comes into contact with – inside or outside the walls.
Every time I’ve found myself questioning their motives is a result of listening to or reading someone else’s critique or opinion. Too many people are too quick to insert their “expertise” on a situation of another church, or its leadership, when they have no knowledge of the situation outside the article they just read.

]]> By: Rich Barrett http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/2009/10/5-million-bridge-to-somewhere-tie-it-to-the-purpose/comment-page-1/#comment-9595 Rich Barrett Mon, 19 Oct 2009 08:46:41 +0000 http://cms.bigbadcollab.com/?p=1649#comment-9595 Balancing care for creation and the infrastructure necessary for growth is a delicate balance in ANY civil engineering project, and is part of why this was debated for so long. It is a bridge, and not a surface road, for exactly that reason—to preserve as much nature as possible Keep in mind this is Atlanta... not exactly remote territory unfamiliar to steel & concrete. Balancing care for creation and the infrastructure necessary for growth is a delicate balance in ANY civil engineering project, and is part of why this was debated for so long.
It is a bridge, and not a surface road, for exactly that reason—to preserve as much nature as possible
Keep in mind this is Atlanta… not exactly remote territory unfamiliar to steel & concrete.

]]> By: Steve http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/2009/10/5-million-bridge-to-somewhere-tie-it-to-the-purpose/comment-page-1/#comment-9594 Steve Fri, 16 Oct 2009 03:21:55 +0000 http://cms.bigbadcollab.com/?p=1649#comment-9594 Great post. It would be good to do a whole post on different capital campaigns again. We just did one and raised in 8 months $1.7m though we were expecting $2m to come in over 3 years. People caught the vision and gave - slap bang in the middle of the GFC. Only God. Great post. It would be good to do a whole post on different capital campaigns again. We just did one and raised in 8 months $1.7m though we were expecting $2m to come in over 3 years. People caught the vision and gave – slap bang in the middle of the GFC.
Only God.

]]> By: John (Human3rror) http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/2009/10/5-million-bridge-to-somewhere-tie-it-to-the-purpose/comment-page-1/#comment-9593 John (Human3rror) Thu, 15 Oct 2009 08:58:53 +0000 http://cms.bigbadcollab.com/?p=1649#comment-9593 Thanks for blogging about this initiative. We're excited about how it's going to help a lot more people access the church. It is core to our mission and success. and it's been a long time coming. Thanks for blogging about this initiative. We’re excited about how it’s going to help a lot more people access the church. It is core to our mission and success. and it’s been a long time coming.

]]> By: Marc Aune http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/2009/10/5-million-bridge-to-somewhere-tie-it-to-the-purpose/comment-page-1/#comment-9592 Marc Aune Thu, 15 Oct 2009 07:05:44 +0000 http://cms.bigbadcollab.com/?p=1649#comment-9592 Building projects can be positive things to rally around. To that extent, I am optimistic that it will be unifying for many in the church. Six years ago, dozens of men from our congregation came together to move the church garage across the property and it is still viewed as a galvanizing event for those men involved. My concern would be the apparent lack of concern for the environment. Sure, it sounds like they got all the permissions required by law, but building a thousand foot hulking structure of steel and concrete through wetlands does not show respect for God's creation, even though it is done under the premise of love for God's people. Admittedly, I am much more inclined to hug people before trees, but to this outside observer, it just doesn't look good. Building projects can be positive things to rally around. To that extent, I am optimistic that it will be unifying for many in the church. Six years ago, dozens of men from our congregation came together to move the church garage across the property and it is still viewed as a galvanizing event for those men involved.
My concern would be the apparent lack of concern for the environment. Sure, it sounds like they got all the permissions required by law, but building a thousand foot hulking structure of steel and concrete through wetlands does not show respect for God’s creation, even though it is done under the premise of love for God’s people.
Admittedly, I am much more inclined to hug people before trees, but to this outside observer, it just doesn’t look good.

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