Comments on: A Visitor’s Perspective: I Must Be in the Front Row! http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/2007/10/a-visitors-perspective-i-must-be-in-the-front-row/ Frustrate. Educate. Motivate. Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:01:49 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Peter Horn http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/2007/10/a-visitors-perspective-i-must-be-in-the-front-row/comment-page-1/#comment-29420 Peter Horn Mon, 16 Jan 2012 13:21:01 +0000 http://cms.bigbadcollab.com/?p=991#comment-29420 Hi Nancy / Gabe. I'm just starting to investigate a name tag effort for our church and would love to find any technical details from other's experiences. What technology is being used (PC+Printer / Engraved / plastic blank + Pin / Card stock in plastic wallet + pin) Any ideas or suggestions out there? Thanks. Peter Horn, Atlanta GA peter@pwhdev.com Hi Nancy / Gabe.

I’m just starting to investigate a name tag effort for our church and would love to find any technical details from other’s experiences. What technology is being used (PC+Printer / Engraved / plastic blank + Pin / Card stock in plastic wallet + pin) Any ideas or suggestions out there?

Thanks.
Peter Horn, Atlanta GA
peter@pwhdev.com

]]> By: Nancy Bernardi http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/2007/10/a-visitors-perspective-i-must-be-in-the-front-row/comment-page-1/#comment-25744 Nancy Bernardi Wed, 12 Oct 2011 21:55:38 +0000 http://cms.bigbadcollab.com/?p=991#comment-25744 Gabe, I would like to know more about how they printed the name tags so quickly. What kind of paper/label paper did they print on? Was it a regular printer or a special label printer? Thank you. Gabe, I would like to know more about how they printed the name tags so quickly. What kind of paper/label paper did they print on? Was it a regular printer or a special label printer? Thank you.

]]> By: Sherry http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/2007/10/a-visitors-perspective-i-must-be-in-the-front-row/comment-page-1/#comment-6247 Sherry Tue, 10 Mar 2009 12:47:25 +0000 http://cms.bigbadcollab.com/?p=991#comment-6247 Our former minister publicly commented on my clothes (I was wearing a lime green dressy sort of top), and I was sitting in the front row. He did this while referring to a Terfullian conception, that pastels were of the devil. He also surrounded the statements about how women were once perceived as evil and misleading towards men. We understood the point he was making but it is excusable to point out a person and associate with such a story. My husband had taken a leadership role in the church and had also filled in preaching for this minister. When spoken to about it, he made excuses for his statements. There was never an apology. This in combination to pushing for money every week as well as very minimal evangelism, prompted us to leave the church. Our former minister publicly commented on my clothes (I was wearing a lime green dressy sort of top), and I was sitting in the front row. He did this while referring to a Terfullian conception, that pastels were of the devil. He also surrounded the statements about how women were once perceived as evil and misleading towards men.
We understood the point he was making but it is excusable to point out a person and associate with such a story.
My husband had taken a leadership role in the church and had also filled in preaching for this minister. When spoken to about it, he made excuses for his statements. There was never an apology.
This in combination to pushing for money every week as well as very minimal evangelism, prompted us to leave the church.

]]> By: jj http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/2007/10/a-visitors-perspective-i-must-be-in-the-front-row/comment-page-1/#comment-6246 jj Mon, 22 Oct 2007 12:58:30 +0000 http://cms.bigbadcollab.com/?p=991#comment-6246 Zimmermann says "The 80% rule states". What is his source? Where does this statement come from. I am looking to solidify this as I have heard it time and time again, and found it to be true in our church, and would like a valid, credible source. Thank you. Zimmermann says “The 80% rule states”. What is his source? Where does this statement come from. I am looking to solidify this as I have heard it time and time again, and found it to be true in our church, and would like a valid, credible source. Thank you.

]]> By: Josh Nunn http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/2007/10/a-visitors-perspective-i-must-be-in-the-front-row/comment-page-1/#comment-6245 Josh Nunn Sat, 06 Oct 2007 14:26:48 +0000 http://cms.bigbadcollab.com/?p=991#comment-6245 hah, our church building is terrible as far as room goes, the rows are tiny, and usully during the stand n greet they are PACKED. i kind of notice the discomfort in visitors faces from the lack of space. but our afternoon service is in the back hall where theres movable chairs and lots of room, so we have both extremes. hah, our church building is terrible as far as room goes, the rows are tiny, and usully during the stand n greet they are PACKED. i kind of notice the discomfort in visitors faces from the lack of space.
but our afternoon service is in the back hall where theres movable chairs and lots of room, so we have both extremes.

]]> By: Gabe Smith http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/2007/10/a-visitors-perspective-i-must-be-in-the-front-row/comment-page-1/#comment-6244 Gabe Smith Tue, 02 Oct 2007 22:35:49 +0000 http://cms.bigbadcollab.com/?p=991#comment-6244 Dan B. mentioned nametags, so I wanted to pass along an experience I had as a visitor. I visited a church for a few weeks and they had name tags for everyone that looked identical. From the greeters and pastoral staff to the regulars who were sitting the pews. Not all that remarkable until I discovered that they also printed the same nametags for the visitors. They were at a computer and asked what my name was. I said, "My name won't be in the system," but I told them anyway. Immediately I had a tag like everyone else. This really helped me feel like I could see what was going on without having this flashing sign around my neck that said "VISITOR." Dan B. mentioned nametags, so I wanted to pass along an experience I had as a visitor.
I visited a church for a few weeks and they had name tags for everyone that looked identical. From the greeters and pastoral staff to the regulars who were sitting the pews. Not all that remarkable until I discovered that they also printed the same nametags for the visitors. They were at a computer and asked what my name was. I said, “My name won’t be in the system,” but I told them anyway. Immediately I had a tag like everyone else. This really helped me feel like I could see what was going on without having this flashing sign around my neck that said “VISITOR.”

]]> By: Dan B. http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/2007/10/a-visitors-perspective-i-must-be-in-the-front-row/comment-page-1/#comment-6243 Dan B. Tue, 02 Oct 2007 14:00:42 +0000 http://cms.bigbadcollab.com/?p=991#comment-6243 The name tag comment caught my attention. Our church is into nametags -- greeters, ushers, council members, elders, pastors. They all have nametags. I personally find it goofy. More for the benefit of the tagged person than the visitor, I suspect. To tage or not to tag? What's the difference? The name tag comment caught my attention. Our church is into nametags — greeters, ushers, council members, elders, pastors. They all have nametags.
I personally find it goofy. More for the benefit of the tagged person than the visitor, I suspect.
To tage or not to tag? What’s the difference?

]]> By: Gabe Smith http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/2007/10/a-visitors-perspective-i-must-be-in-the-front-row/comment-page-1/#comment-6242 Gabe Smith Tue, 02 Oct 2007 10:36:11 +0000 http://cms.bigbadcollab.com/?p=991#comment-6242 If the visitors don't want to sit on the front row (and niether to the regulars) for fear of being seen or noticed, I wonder if this means those visitor spots saved at the front of the parking lot seem to stay empty for the same reasons. If the visitors don’t want to sit on the front row (and niether to the regulars) for fear of being seen or noticed, I wonder if this means those visitor spots saved at the front of the parking lot seem to stay empty for the same reasons.

]]> By: Stewart http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/2007/10/a-visitors-perspective-i-must-be-in-the-front-row/comment-page-1/#comment-6241 Stewart Mon, 01 Oct 2007 18:46:07 +0000 http://cms.bigbadcollab.com/?p=991#comment-6241 This has been a great series. I wonder how this works for churches which have children in for part (but not all) of the service. Our place is 75-85% full, but when the kids leave we are 65-70% full. 75-85% feels full. 65 does not. In fact, it starts to creep toward feeling empty. We are really trying hard to work out how to create a "cozy" feel without feeling like we are sitting on each other's laps. Complicated by the fact that attendance can swing 20-30% per weekend. Thanks for the great thoughts. This has been a great series. I wonder how this works for churches which have children in for part (but not all) of the service. Our place is 75-85% full, but when the kids leave we are 65-70% full. 75-85% feels full. 65 does not. In fact, it starts to creep toward feeling empty. We are really trying hard to work out how to create a “cozy” feel without feeling like we are sitting on each other’s laps. Complicated by the fact that attendance can swing 20-30% per weekend.
Thanks for the great thoughts.

]]> By: Mark Jackson http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/2007/10/a-visitors-perspective-i-must-be-in-the-front-row/comment-page-1/#comment-6240 Mark Jackson Mon, 01 Oct 2007 11:46:12 +0000 http://cms.bigbadcollab.com/?p=991#comment-6240 Sporting events & theater are NOT the same thing as weekly worship services... when I attend a concert, I expect everyone in the room to be a fan like me. If we intend for our churches to be open to seekers, then by definition they aren't fans yet. Excellent series, btw. Sporting events & theater are NOT the same thing as weekly worship services… when I attend a concert, I expect everyone in the room to be a fan like me. If we intend for our churches to be open to seekers, then by definition they aren’t fans yet.
Excellent series, btw.

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