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	<title>Comments on: The End of Static Logos</title>
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		<title>By: christina</title>
		<link>http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/2007/06/the-end-of-static-logos/comment-page-1/#comment-5814</link>
		<dc:creator>christina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 07:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>exactly, Damian, the whole concept of do everything as if you are doing it for the Lord... additionally, I think that it is one of the marks of a good brand if you can change it a bit for a holiday or whatever and still see the identity.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>exactly, Damian, the whole concept of do everything as if you are doing it for the Lord&#8230; additionally, I think that it is one of the marks of a good brand if you can change it a bit for a holiday or whatever and still see the identity.</p>
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		<title>By: karab</title>
		<link>http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/2007/06/the-end-of-static-logos/comment-page-1/#comment-5813</link>
		<dc:creator>karab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 06:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would love to see dynamic logos in our church.  I believe the UMC flame is the perfect logo to be animated.
And the future of signage will soon be able to keep up with dynamic logos as a real world site as well as virturally.  And if we put that much work into promotion/logos, it&#039;s directly linked to the amount of time we pour into ministry...or should be at least.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would love to see dynamic logos in our church.  I believe the UMC flame is the perfect logo to be animated.<br />
And the future of signage will soon be able to keep up with dynamic logos as a real world site as well as virturally.  And if we put that much work into promotion/logos, it&#8217;s directly linked to the amount of time we pour into ministry&#8230;or should be at least.</p>
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		<title>By: Damian</title>
		<link>http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/2007/06/the-end-of-static-logos/comment-page-1/#comment-5812</link>
		<dc:creator>Damian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 23:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The church matters, the logo matters, the wording in the brochure and in the message matters, the parking lot matters, the bathrooms matter...
These are interdependent realities, and good design is becoming a key priority. Design won&#039;t save anyone, but the work we put into every facet of what we call church is an indication of how much we care. In other words, saying &quot;it doesn&#039;t matter&quot; is saying &quot;you don&#039;t matter&quot; to the community, and to the congregation.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The church matters, the logo matters, the wording in the brochure and in the message matters, the parking lot matters, the bathrooms matter&#8230;<br />
These are interdependent realities, and good design is becoming a key priority. Design won&#8217;t save anyone, but the work we put into every facet of what we call church is an indication of how much we care. In other words, saying &#8220;it doesn&#8217;t matter&#8221; is saying &#8220;you don&#8217;t matter&#8221; to the community, and to the congregation.</p>
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		<title>By: Mean Dean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mean Dean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 08:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it a good marketing idea to create a brand that is a moving target?
If not, then perhaps we should reconsider the &quot;gee whiz&quot; thinking behind dynamic logos.
Meaning, while technically refreshing, if they don&#039;t contribute to a church web site&#039;s conversion goals, then do they profit us anything?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it a good marketing idea to create a brand that is a moving target?<br />
If not, then perhaps we should reconsider the &#8220;gee whiz&#8221; thinking behind dynamic logos.<br />
Meaning, while technically refreshing, if they don&#8217;t contribute to a church web site&#8217;s conversion goals, then do they profit us anything?</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2007 21:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m working on a redesign of our logo at the moment (we&#039;ve stopped using our old one and are kind of logo-less at the mo)...
The intention is to have a tag that stays basically the same design (in this case the word &#039;riverside&#039; in a block) that lays over a large stylised RS: the RS will change each year or so in line with the fashion, but the block will stay the same, except for colours.
Ours is a young-adult focussed church: fashion matters to them, so it matters to us.
Matthew - I agree the church IS important, but as soon as you start talking about the lower case C church (ie the local congregation) then identity matters. It matters a lot.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m working on a redesign of our logo at the moment (we&#8217;ve stopped using our old one and are kind of logo-less at the mo)&#8230;<br />
The intention is to have a tag that stays basically the same design (in this case the word &#8216;riverside&#8217; in a block) that lays over a large stylised RS: the RS will change each year or so in line with the fashion, but the block will stay the same, except for colours.<br />
Ours is a young-adult focussed church: fashion matters to them, so it matters to us.<br />
Matthew &#8211; I agree the church IS important, but as soon as you start talking about the lower case C church (ie the local congregation) then identity matters. It matters a lot.</p>
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		<title>By: IMAGE Church</title>
		<link>http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/2007/06/the-end-of-static-logos/comment-page-1/#comment-5809</link>
		<dc:creator>IMAGE Church</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2007 08:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we morphed ours once in a year since we became a church plant; however we had three different logos when we were a ministry at a church in a 4 year span. That is probably not the best way to go about it because of brand identity. We do need to stay moving forward though. UPS, Shell gas and other big corps have kept the traditional logos with morphing to todays market and it works..
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we morphed ours once in a year since we became a church plant; however we had three different logos when we were a ministry at a church in a 4 year span. That is probably not the best way to go about it because of brand identity. We do need to stay moving forward though. UPS, Shell gas and other big corps have kept the traditional logos with morphing to todays market and it works..</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Huff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Huff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 05:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL Betsy!
I agree with Matthew.  I put logos in the same category as mission statements, vision statements, even church web site designs.  It&#039;s fun to try to tweak our public image through these kinds of things, but what changes our public image the most is what we actually do.  What ministries do we participate in?  Do we go out of our way to be Christlike?  Of course, this makes sense, but we forget so easily.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL Betsy!<br />
I agree with Matthew.  I put logos in the same category as mission statements, vision statements, even church web site designs.  It&#8217;s fun to try to tweak our public image through these kinds of things, but what changes our public image the most is what we actually do.  What ministries do we participate in?  Do we go out of our way to be Christlike?  Of course, this makes sense, but we forget so easily.</p>
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		<title>By: Mean Dean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mean Dean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 18:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a nice concept - but I wonder how much it does in terms of reaching one&#039;s conversion goals for their site?
I mean, Google has dynamic logos - but only on special occasions - and only because they&#039;re a well known and adopted brand.
I know of no church who has the same fan base nor affinity with their brand - so the question in my mind is: nice, but does it get us anywhere?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a nice concept &#8211; but I wonder how much it does in terms of reaching one&#8217;s conversion goals for their site?<br />
I mean, Google has dynamic logos &#8211; but only on special occasions &#8211; and only because they&#8217;re a well known and adopted brand.<br />
I know of no church who has the same fan base nor affinity with their brand &#8211; so the question in my mind is: nice, but does it get us anywhere?</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 15:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No matter what you do to it, a logo is still just a logo. It lets people know your name, but beyond that, it doesn&#039;t matter much.
Many of the most popular and respected companies and institutions have kept the same logo for years, and the public doesn&#039;t care.
You can change your logo if you want, although I think it&#039;s likely a waste of time. What matters is the church.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No matter what you do to it, a logo is still just a logo. It lets people know your name, but beyond that, it doesn&#8217;t matter much.<br />
Many of the most popular and respected companies and institutions have kept the same logo for years, and the public doesn&#8217;t care.<br />
You can change your logo if you want, although I think it&#8217;s likely a waste of time. What matters is the church.</p>
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		<title>By: Erickyp</title>
		<link>http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/2007/06/the-end-of-static-logos/comment-page-1/#comment-5805</link>
		<dc:creator>Erickyp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 10:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, you are right; there is not a even a logo on our site. You know, we have been looking our site to make some changes and not one person caught the fact that there is no logo on there. Sometimes it takes an outside eye to see something so obivious, like my wife showing me where the mayo is.
Maybe, I am using the word morph wrong. I am not the tech person but that is my word for making subtle changes to the logo so that is changes but still looks similiar.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, you are right; there is not a even a logo on our site. You know, we have been looking our site to make some changes and not one person caught the fact that there is no logo on there. Sometimes it takes an outside eye to see something so obivious, like my wife showing me where the mayo is.<br />
Maybe, I am using the word morph wrong. I am not the tech person but that is my word for making subtle changes to the logo so that is changes but still looks similiar.</p>
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