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	<title>Comments on: Connecting Church Marketers</title>
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		<title>By: Timothy Stewart</title>
		<link>http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/2005/04/connecting-church-marketers/comment-page-1/#comment-980</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Stewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am the Pastor of Creative Communications at my church, and I think it would be great to collaborate with other creative communicators.  After transitioning out of Youth Ministry, I set out to spearhead a ministry that was designed to gather various forms of creative communicators, and give them avenues to glorify God through their unique giftings.  It has been gradually progressing, but if there is anything else out there similair, it would be great to find out their infrastructure, vision, etc. Because the structure of the ministry has been the most challenging, and incorporating it into a rather rigid church service.  If anyone wants to know about Radiance, visit radiancemedia.blogspot.com.  Rather modest blog that I have been experimenting with.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am the Pastor of Creative Communications at my church, and I think it would be great to collaborate with other creative communicators.  After transitioning out of Youth Ministry, I set out to spearhead a ministry that was designed to gather various forms of creative communicators, and give them avenues to glorify God through their unique giftings.  It has been gradually progressing, but if there is anything else out there similair, it would be great to find out their infrastructure, vision, etc. Because the structure of the ministry has been the most challenging, and incorporating it into a rather rigid church service.  If anyone wants to know about Radiance, visit radiancemedia.blogspot.com.  Rather modest blog that I have been experimenting with.</p>
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		<title>By: Honnie Korngold</title>
		<link>http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/2005/04/connecting-church-marketers/comment-page-1/#comment-979</link>
		<dc:creator>Honnie Korngold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2005 20:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those interested in faith-based marketing should check out the First Annual Faith-based Marketing Summit in Dallas, TX, November 4, 2005.  Here is a brief description of the purpose of the event:
In recent years, the faith based community has played a major role in the success of numerous films such as The Passion of the Christ and the Left Behind series, and books like The Prayer of Jabez and Rick Warren’s best-seller Purpose-Driven Life.
The 1st Annual Faith Based Marketing Summit (www.faithbasedmarketing.com) will explore the role this influential segment of society can play, and help attendees learn what it takes to reach this integral group of consumers.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those interested in faith-based marketing should check out the First Annual Faith-based Marketing Summit in Dallas, TX, November 4, 2005.  Here is a brief description of the purpose of the event:<br />
In recent years, the faith based community has played a major role in the success of numerous films such as The Passion of the Christ and the Left Behind series, and books like The Prayer of Jabez and Rick Warren’s best-seller Purpose-Driven Life.<br />
The 1st Annual Faith Based Marketing Summit (www.faithbasedmarketing.com) will explore the role this influential segment of society can play, and help attendees learn what it takes to reach this integral group of consumers.</p>
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		<title>By: Terrell Sanders</title>
		<link>http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/2005/04/connecting-church-marketers/comment-page-1/#comment-978</link>
		<dc:creator>Terrell Sanders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 May 2005 18:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For anyone interested in a trip to Houston in September, we have the details of our MinistryCOM conference online now - www.MinistryCOM.org
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For anyone interested in a trip to Houston in September, we have the details of our MinistryCOM conference online now &#8211; <a href="http://www.MinistryCOM.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.MinistryCOM.org</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anthony Ingram</title>
		<link>http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/2005/04/connecting-church-marketers/comment-page-1/#comment-977</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony Ingram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2005 12:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello - I volunteer at my church with the Creative Arts Department. The dept is only about one year old, but we are finally beginning to hit our stride. One other person in the dept works with me on &quot;marketing&quot; type activities - and a lot of the official marketing still is handled thorugh the main church office. We also have some talented graphic artists in our church who provide input fairly regularly. I think it would be great to have regional meetings that people from that area could attend at least twice per year. We could reinvent the wheel and build such an event from scratch - or try to build off of what is being done at the June  Willow Creek Conference.(http://www.willowcreek.com/events/arts/leadership.asp)
I do not see Marketing as a specific breakout session at the Willow Creek event.
Is it possible to add a chat feature to a blog so that we&#039;uns could all log in and share ideas and info &quot;realtime&quot; at specific dates/times - or - we could use the chat feature in a YAHOO group. I am all for it!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello &#8211; I volunteer at my church with the Creative Arts Department. The dept is only about one year old, but we are finally beginning to hit our stride. One other person in the dept works with me on &#8220;marketing&#8221; type activities &#8211; and a lot of the official marketing still is handled thorugh the main church office. We also have some talented graphic artists in our church who provide input fairly regularly. I think it would be great to have regional meetings that people from that area could attend at least twice per year. We could reinvent the wheel and build such an event from scratch &#8211; or try to build off of what is being done at the June  Willow Creek Conference.(<a href="http://www.willowcreek.com/events/arts/leadership.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.willowcreek.com/events/arts/leadership.asp</a>)<br />
I do not see Marketing as a specific breakout session at the Willow Creek event.<br />
Is it possible to add a chat feature to a blog so that we&#8217;uns could all log in and share ideas and info &#8220;realtime&#8221; at specific dates/times &#8211; or &#8211; we could use the chat feature in a YAHOO group. I am all for it!</p>
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		<title>By: kenny eicher</title>
		<link>http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/2005/04/connecting-church-marketers/comment-page-1/#comment-976</link>
		<dc:creator>kenny eicher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2005 08:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, this is a wonderful idea. I am not on staff at my church (manhattanchurch.org in NYC), but do the bulk of the creative/marketing materials. I also do work for a church in Illinois. I&#039;d be very interested in attending - and helping to organize - a national meeting of creative professionals who are joined in the notion that there&#039;s something better in the world of church marketing/advertising than what we all grew up with.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, this is a wonderful idea. I am not on staff at my church (manhattanchurch.org in NYC), but do the bulk of the creative/marketing materials. I also do work for a church in Illinois. I&#8217;d be very interested in attending &#8211; and helping to organize &#8211; a national meeting of creative professionals who are joined in the notion that there&#8217;s something better in the world of church marketing/advertising than what we all grew up with.</p>
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		<title>By: kirt</title>
		<link>http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/2005/04/connecting-church-marketers/comment-page-1/#comment-975</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Apr 2005 19:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have already put the Sept. 15-16 Mainstreet conference on my calendar! I really believe there is critical mass for a &quot;church marketing&quot; conference to succeed.
The Granger LiveWire Workshop is very good, but is, in essence, a lesson in how Granger does communication. I have not been to the Outreach conference, but it seems highly focused on evangelism and, correct me if I&#039;m wrong, heavy on Outreach&#039;s own approach and materials.
If a national conference adds enough value to the online discussion, it will be an catalytic event. I&#039;d be very interested in helping plan it so long as it&#039;s not just a &quot;who makes the coolest cards&quot; contest.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have already put the Sept. 15-16 Mainstreet conference on my calendar! I really believe there is critical mass for a &#8220;church marketing&#8221; conference to succeed.<br />
The Granger LiveWire Workshop is very good, but is, in essence, a lesson in how Granger does communication. I have not been to the Outreach conference, but it seems highly focused on evangelism and, correct me if I&#8217;m wrong, heavy on Outreach&#8217;s own approach and materials.<br />
If a national conference adds enough value to the online discussion, it will be an catalytic event. I&#8217;d be very interested in helping plan it so long as it&#8217;s not just a &#8220;who makes the coolest cards&#8221; contest.</p>
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		<title>By: anne jackson</title>
		<link>http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/2005/04/connecting-church-marketers/comment-page-1/#comment-974</link>
		<dc:creator>anne jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Apr 2005 09:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jonathan,
I was in the same position as you, but with students.  Not only did we have the best marketing material, we came up with some pretty original ideas to reach our student database.  For instance, after last summer, they changed the time that the high school met from Wed to Sunday and JH from Thursday to Wed.  We wanted to make sure that the big change did not get overlooked, so we mailed out diapers and inside we put in a postcard saying &quot;change is good&quot; with all the vital info.  Imagine the looks of the people at the post office when we came in with 700 diapers.  It took some research and meeting with the postal standards people, but it ended up being cheap (.40/diaper after postage) way to get our point across.  Anyway, after seeing some consistency &amp; quality coming out of our student ministry, and knowing the need our church had for it, they created my position.  It took a year and is still taking time to go through everything and also help some of the staff transition into out of the box thinking, staying away from mass marketing and going more towards niche marketing, but it is a process I am thankful to be a part of.  I know your team will take notice of your creativity and excellence and then piece that together with their need for clear &amp; effective communication.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan,<br />
I was in the same position as you, but with students.  Not only did we have the best marketing material, we came up with some pretty original ideas to reach our student database.  For instance, after last summer, they changed the time that the high school met from Wed to Sunday and JH from Thursday to Wed.  We wanted to make sure that the big change did not get overlooked, so we mailed out diapers and inside we put in a postcard saying &#8220;change is good&#8221; with all the vital info.  Imagine the looks of the people at the post office when we came in with 700 diapers.  It took some research and meeting with the postal standards people, but it ended up being cheap (.40/diaper after postage) way to get our point across.  Anyway, after seeing some consistency &#038; quality coming out of our student ministry, and knowing the need our church had for it, they created my position.  It took a year and is still taking time to go through everything and also help some of the staff transition into out of the box thinking, staying away from mass marketing and going more towards niche marketing, but it is a process I am thankful to be a part of.  I know your team will take notice of your creativity and excellence and then piece that together with their need for clear &#038; effective communication.</p>
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		<title>By: brand1m</title>
		<link>http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/2005/04/connecting-church-marketers/comment-page-1/#comment-973</link>
		<dc:creator>brand1m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Apr 2005 03:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I started down this path nearly three years ago, I must say I was a little nervous.  Everytime I visit this site, I am encouraged by all of the excitement and passion everyone here has for communicating more effectively.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I started down this path nearly three years ago, I must say I was a little nervous.  Everytime I visit this site, I am encouraged by all of the excitement and passion everyone here has for communicating more effectively.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Blundell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Blundell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2005 23:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must say, this has been a dream job for me for several years but I&#039;m not sure our church has seen the benefits of this type of position yet. I&#039;d like to think/hope our singles department (which I work with) has some of the best communication/flyers and such for events, but when I see other media things from our church, I&#039;m left wondering why can&#039;t this be better. I&#039;d love to see an online community for media ministers. I&#039;ve found a good number of ideas and resources from istockphoto.com. It&#039;s a totally secular site, but great ideas have come from their pages.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must say, this has been a dream job for me for several years but I&#8217;m not sure our church has seen the benefits of this type of position yet. I&#8217;d like to think/hope our singles department (which I work with) has some of the best communication/flyers and such for events, but when I see other media things from our church, I&#8217;m left wondering why can&#8217;t this be better. I&#8217;d love to see an online community for media ministers. I&#8217;ve found a good number of ideas and resources from istockphoto.com. It&#8217;s a totally secular site, but great ideas have come from their pages.</p>
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		<title>By: anne jackson</title>
		<link>http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/2005/04/connecting-church-marketers/comment-page-1/#comment-971</link>
		<dc:creator>anne jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i am the director of communications at westside family church in shawnee, ks.  there is also a communications seminar at granger community church in indiana on may 23. myself and our communications coordinator are going.  kem meyer is awesome. :)  there is pretty much nothing in kansas, but it would be cool to start something.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i am the director of communications at westside family church in shawnee, ks.  there is also a communications seminar at granger community church in indiana on may 23. myself and our communications coordinator are going.  kem meyer is awesome. :)  there is pretty much nothing in kansas, but it would be cool to start something.</p>
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