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		<title>By: Gary Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/2004/11/what-is-marketing/comment-page-1/#comment-18720</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 05:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You may want to remove this. The url is not a wbsite.</description>
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		<title>By: Toni Barrier</title>
		<link>http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/2004/11/what-is-marketing/comment-page-2/#comment-15417</link>
		<dc:creator>Toni Barrier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2010 03:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think church marketing  is a necessity and that God has anointed His people to do all things with excellence. We must be Holy Spirit led so that we are on track with God and not doing our own thing. Even when it is in something as simple as a creating a website address.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think church marketing  is a necessity and that God has anointed His people to do all things with excellence. We must be Holy Spirit led so that we are on track with God and not doing our own thing. Even when it is in something as simple as a creating a website address.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Holbrook</title>
		<link>http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/2004/11/what-is-marketing/comment-page-2/#comment-15304</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Holbrook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2010 01:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just spent several minutes reading the comments going back the past five years about marketing and the church. As a marketing professional for a state historical society, I also am the marketing ministry leader for our church. I use the same approaches for both organizations. Most simply put, I try to help each department or ministry more effectively tell their story. The bottom line is this, if we are not speaking to people in a way that they can understand and is relevent to their lives, they just won&#039;t hear us. To define marketing our churchs the same as coporations do is addressing motive - corporations market for numbers, so churchs must being doing it for the same reasons. I would contend that churchs can and should market, but with a motive of reaching out to those who feel they have nowhere to turn. Done with the right motives, church marketing is following scripture by effectively keeping our light out from under the bushel (Luke 8:16).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just spent several minutes reading the comments going back the past five years about marketing and the church. As a marketing professional for a state historical society, I also am the marketing ministry leader for our church. I use the same approaches for both organizations. Most simply put, I try to help each department or ministry more effectively tell their story. The bottom line is this, if we are not speaking to people in a way that they can understand and is relevent to their lives, they just won&#8217;t hear us. To define marketing our churchs the same as coporations do is addressing motive &#8211; corporations market for numbers, so churchs must being doing it for the same reasons. I would contend that churchs can and should market, but with a motive of reaching out to those who feel they have nowhere to turn. Done with the right motives, church marketing is following scripture by effectively keeping our light out from under the bushel (Luke 8:16).</p>
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		<title>By: Evan2Life</title>
		<link>http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/2004/11/what-is-marketing/comment-page-2/#comment-12773</link>
		<dc:creator>Evan2Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2010 18:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can I ask advice as to how to structure our communications/design department in our church? We have three designers and a couple of video guys. We are trying to get a consistent and professional look across the board but have a couple of pastors who want to tell us all how to design and the end results are bad. How do we structure things so that they leave the designs to the professionals?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can I ask advice as to how to structure our communications/design department in our church? We have three designers and a couple of video guys. We are trying to get a consistent and professional look across the board but have a couple of pastors who want to tell us all how to design and the end results are bad. How do we structure things so that they leave the designs to the professionals?</p>
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		<title>By: Kendra</title>
		<link>http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/2004/11/what-is-marketing/comment-page-2/#comment-386</link>
		<dc:creator>Kendra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 10:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading all of these comments of who should hold first place in the &#039;I am write because I said so and Jesus thinks so too&#039; comment war - does bring some humor to my day.
Speaking of war - which we are in must I remind all of you - a war to win souls - our opponent &#039;The World&#039; - they do nothing to &#039;soften&#039; or &#039;lower&#039; their voices in their marketing - why should we, if we stay the way - we will never be heard - and people are needing Jesus - badly!
Should we lower our standards and rebel against scripture? No - not at all. But we can very much be in peoples face (not in a condemning way) but a way that brings love and a Savor to their life.
My motto for life is this
&quot;I dont mind stepping on peoples toes, because its a lot better then them being burned off over and over in hell for all of eternity&quot;
But the awesome thing about humans - is everyone has an opinion - which can be super frustration at times, but it brings diversity and awesome blogs!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading all of these comments of who should hold first place in the &#8216;I am write because I said so and Jesus thinks so too&#8217; comment war &#8211; does bring some humor to my day.<br />
Speaking of war &#8211; which we are in must I remind all of you &#8211; a war to win souls &#8211; our opponent &#8216;The World&#8217; &#8211; they do nothing to &#8216;soften&#8217; or &#8216;lower&#8217; their voices in their marketing &#8211; why should we, if we stay the way &#8211; we will never be heard &#8211; and people are needing Jesus &#8211; badly!<br />
Should we lower our standards and rebel against scripture? No &#8211; not at all. But we can very much be in peoples face (not in a condemning way) but a way that brings love and a Savor to their life.<br />
My motto for life is this<br />
&#8220;I dont mind stepping on peoples toes, because its a lot better then them being burned off over and over in hell for all of eternity&#8221;<br />
But the awesome thing about humans &#8211; is everyone has an opinion &#8211; which can be super frustration at times, but it brings diversity and awesome blogs!</p>
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		<title>By: jeff hicks</title>
		<link>http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/2004/11/what-is-marketing/comment-page-2/#comment-385</link>
		<dc:creator>jeff hicks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 09:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I Pastor a small church (60 members) in Seattle. We opened our doors in October of 09 and want to market our church to our community. We are adding a video link to our website www.christsheritagechurch.org and want to reach our area with the message of this neat missional church. We feel we need to enlist a company to guide us through this, do you have any ideas?
Jeff
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I Pastor a small church (60 members) in Seattle. We opened our doors in October of 09 and want to market our church to our community. We are adding a video link to our website <a href="http://www.christsheritagechurch.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.christsheritagechurch.org</a> and want to reach our area with the message of this neat missional church. We feel we need to enlist a company to guide us through this, do you have any ideas?<br />
Jeff</p>
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		<title>By: Zoe</title>
		<link>http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/2004/11/what-is-marketing/comment-page-2/#comment-384</link>
		<dc:creator>Zoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 22:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This argument about marketing reminds me of the age old argument about whether one needs to be trained or educated in the Bible before beginning to preach.
No preacher needs to be educated in the Bible...unless he wants others to listen to what he has to say.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This argument about marketing reminds me of the age old argument about whether one needs to be trained or educated in the Bible before beginning to preach.<br />
No preacher needs to be educated in the Bible&#8230;unless he wants others to listen to what he has to say.</p>
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		<title>By: tim</title>
		<link>http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/2004/11/what-is-marketing/comment-page-2/#comment-383</link>
		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 20:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is indeed an interesting subject andhere is my 2 cents..
church marketing can suck.
But if God is in the midst of this and the leaders elders, shepherds, minsiters youth workers, believe God is calling them to try a new method approach why should I judge them?
Love the sinner hate the sin.
I say use the other &quot;P&#039; s of christianity
1. the power of the cross
2. the power of prayer
3. the power fellowship
remember Gos has saved us and called us..
Each person had a different calling find it and do this
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is indeed an interesting subject andhere is my 2 cents..<br />
church marketing can suck.<br />
But if God is in the midst of this and the leaders elders, shepherds, minsiters youth workers, believe God is calling them to try a new method approach why should I judge them?<br />
Love the sinner hate the sin.<br />
I say use the other &#8220;P&#8217; s of christianity<br />
1. the power of the cross<br />
2. the power of prayer<br />
3. the power fellowship<br />
remember Gos has saved us and called us..<br />
Each person had a different calling find it and do this</p>
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		<title>By: Marketing</title>
		<link>http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/2004/11/what-is-marketing/comment-page-2/#comment-382</link>
		<dc:creator>Marketing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 03:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I thing marketing problem is which is not measured cannot be improved.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I thing marketing problem is which is not measured cannot be improved.</p>
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		<title>By: lovemy3dudes</title>
		<link>http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/2004/11/what-is-marketing/comment-page-2/#comment-381</link>
		<dc:creator>lovemy3dudes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 02:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if anyone has a problem with the wording of this blog, then talk to some people under 20 years old for a while.  We are not preaching or provoking the crowd of the 90&#039;s anymore people.......
I LOVE this site...bring it on :)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if anyone has a problem with the wording of this blog, then talk to some people under 20 years old for a while.  We are not preaching or provoking the crowd of the 90&#8242;s anymore people&#8230;&#8230;.<br />
I LOVE this site&#8230;bring it on :)</p>
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